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Buying leads – is it worth it? (and how to make it more profitable)

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Buying leads can be a great way to get some sales in the door quickly, but there are also a few situations where buying leads may not be a good idea.

In one of my upcoming podcasts I will be talking about different levels of marketing. The basic premise of marketing levels is that Level 1 marketing tactics are easy to implement (anyone can do it), don’t require much up-front investment of time or money, get to their results quickly (either positive or negative), and are non-unique (meaning you’re not different from anybody else). Typically, these are methods where the more you spend the more you get.

One popular Level 1 marketing tactic is buying leads. The theory is that someone else has invested the time and effort to build an online brand, put the effort into search engine optimization, and has contact information for prospective customers to sell to you. In theory, this is a fantastic idea. I can skip the time and investment needed to build up an online brand and a marketing campaign, and can simply pay for the number of leads that I want to pursue. Hopefully I can get instant sales results as well.

There are situations where this works, and this can work really well for some people. I have some clients who have done really well buying leads. I also have a number of clients who have found out what to avoid when buying leads.

Number one is to be sure you’re buying real leads. Unfortunately, some companies sell names or contact information of people who haven’t actually indicated an interest in the service that you’re offering. A real lead would be someone who has indicated an interest in hiring a service provider at some point. A fake one would be somebody who maybe just bought the name from a list and is reselling it.

Second, you want to make sure you’re buying quality leads. I ran a big marketing marketing campaign for a compliance software solution. We got a number of leads in from different trade shows that we went to. We also got leads in through search engine optimization, through getting our web pages found.

When we crunched the numbers we found out that the leads obtained through SEO were at least a hundred times more valuable than the leads obtained from a trade show. Sure, everybody had opted in. Everyone at the trade show said that they were interested in follow-up; they wanted to get more information. Everybody who came to our website said that they were interested in follow-up and they wanted to get more information.

But the fact is that probably 30-40% of the people that came in on the website ended up buying a software package that was worth anywhere from $30,000 to $70,000 for the contract price. Of the people who told us at the trade show that they wanted more information, that they were interested in the product and wanted more follow-up, less than one of a hundred actually made a purchase. What we found was that the ones who opted in on our website, that had come in through search engine optimization, were really, desperately wanting a solution to their problem. The ones who opted in at the trade show may have been just excited in the moment, or maybe they wanted to be entered into our drawing, or maybe they just told us they’re interested so they could take more candy. Who knows?

The cost of these leads was far higher than what we spent on obtaining the lead. Of course, going to the trade show you have all the costs of the booth and sending the people there, etc., but it’s not just the cost per lead. It’s the amount of time spent. So when you factor in all the time the sales reps spent following up on these leads that were not really that interested, the costs were much higher than the actual sticker price, whereas the cost or the time spent following up on the people who opted in through the search engine proved to be extremely valuable.

I’ll give you another example of where buying leads can not work for you. I had a real estate client that wanted a tool to give people on their website an estimate of their home value. A number of companies have databases of home values and they maintain them and calculate them with different methods. I went to one company that that offered this tool for realtors to put on their website, and before I put it on my client’s website I tested the tool.

So I filled out my name and address and said, “Hey, can I get the current value of my home?” That’s what the web page said it would offer. Give us your name and email address and phone number, and then we will email you a report that says how much your home is worth.

I filled out the form and entered it, and I did not receive a report with my home value. Instead I received a link to local realtors. Then, immediately, within a matter of minutes, I began getting phone calls. And I continued getting phone calls for weeks from different realtors who had been told that I wanted to buy a home and that I was searching for a home in the neighborhood. And I received lots of calls from mortgage brokers as well, offering me a loan, because they had been told that I was buying a home.

So this company obtained my contact information on a false pretext and they turned around and sold it to dozens of people, also on a false pretext. I had no interest in purchasing a home. I owned a home, and I was just curious how much my home was worth. So all of those people paid for a lead of someone who wanted a mortgage or someone who wanted to purchase a home, and the information was totally bogus.

I have clients that have experienced something similar with other companies where they purchased leads and called up the leads that they purchased, and the people were irate. They were upset. They said they’re not interested, they never wanted to be called, and they’ve been hounded by other callers as well.

Of course, if someone does fill out a form to get quotes, they can be very serious about making a purchase. They could also fill out a form and forget that they actually did. That’s a possibility.

Some of my clients have had some success with HomeAdvisor. That’s one that does have a very legitimate approach to collecting and selling leads. Most of my clients that have used that service have typically only gotten moderate results, but some have done really well. There are two keys to success with buying leads from HomeAdvisor.

(1) You have to call right away. HomeAdvisor sells the lead to several people at once, so if you are not able to follow up immediately when a lead comes in, you’re at a big disadvantage.

(2) You need to filter what you’re buying, and only buy leads for high-margin services. If you’re buying leads for low-ticket or low-margin services, the HomeAdvisor leads will be too expensive, and will erode your entire margin.

One of the factors that affect the value of leads you buy is that you don’t know exactly how interested people are when they’re filling out that particular form. The other is that you have a lot of people following up.

So if you don’t want to invest in your website, if you don’t want to invest in your online brand, if you don’t want to put in the effort to develop a good marketing campaign, then buying leads can be a real shortcut to filling your sales funnel and getting you started in business. If you find a good source and you find that it’s effective for you, it can be a great way to grow your business. Just be sure to do your due diligence about the company that you’re buying leads from. And also calculate the real costs of the lead, including your time spent on follow-up. And cut your losses early if the leads cost more than they’re worth, or if you could invest that same money somewhere else or that same time somewhere else and get a better result.

And, of course, if you’re ready to invest in your online presence in order to get highly qualified, exclusive leads through search engine optimization, feel free to email or call me so we can figure out a plan for you.

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Buying leads – is it worth it?

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Distinctions: More versus Less

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We sometimes think that life will get better if we have more, but the reality is that life usually improves with subtraction, not addition.

Hi, this is Steve Johnsen and I want to talk to you today about a distinction called “More versus Less.”

A distinction is something that you see about how things work in life, and once you see it, you get it. It’s not necessarily a fact you learn or a new piece of information, but it’s something you have to see.

This distinction today, “More versus Less,” can also be called “Addition versus Subtraction.”

A lot of times you might think, “Life will get better if I add more things to my life.”

“Life will get better if I have a boat.”

“Life will get better if I have a second car.”

“Life will get better if I add a new gadget.”

“Life will get better if I add a new activity.”

“Life will get better if I add more friends.”

“Life will get better if I sign up for a dance class.”

But the reality is that very often life gets better not with more but rather with less?if I get rid of some of my stuff, if I don’t have that boat, if I don’t have this extra stuff sitting around my house, if I don’t have the second car or the third car. Or if I drop some of the activities out of my life and drop some of my responsibilities, then I find that all of a sudden I’m much more creative and I’m much more free.

We think that if we go and get a new toy, that will make us happier. As parents, we noticed something very surprising with our children. The more toys we gave them, the less happy they were. They were happiest when they only had a few toys.

And it wasn’t just toys, or “stuff.” We think people will be happier with more entertainment, but that’s just not true. Children who watch one hour of TV a week, generally speaking, are much, much happier that those who watch several hours a day. The one show is really special for them. And they learn to be happy and productive with the time in between.

The same is true for activities. Running from school?to dance class?to soccer?to piano lessons?to tae kwon do?to ceramics?to the modeling coach?is a formula for stress, not for happiness.

Not only children are happier with less, but adults are too. Let’s say I want to go do some camping and I want to go buy an RV. I go buy my RV and I’m so happy. I’m going to take it out and go camping.

But once I have the RV, I’ve got to deal with finding a place to park it. It’s not allowed in my neighborhood. And I have to do a lot of maintenance that takes time out of my day. Then, after going on five camping trips in two or three months, it really kind of loses its appeal, and maybe I don’t want to go quite so often. There are other things that I want to do.

And now I’ve got this RV sitting there in my rented storage space, and I’ve got to take it in regularly for maintenance. And when I’m going to go on a trip, I have to get out the RV and get it all set up. Pretty soon I realize, “Man, this would be a lot simpler if when I want to go RVing, I could rent an RV. Or, sometimes I could go on a trip and just stay in a hotel. Or I could throw a tent in the back of my car and set up a tent.”

You see, adding stuff is not always the best way.

We can make the same mistake in our personal lives, thinking that if I add activities or add friends or add new things in my life, it will make me happier, when actually, what I really need to do is sit down and go through all the things that I am doing and all that things that I do have and consider what is really giving me pleasure and what’s really important to me and what I could just stop right now and it would free up time for something else.

Professionally, it’s subtraction, rather than addition, that is the path to success. Gary Keller wrote a book called “The One Thing” that talks about figuring out the one thing you need to do for business success, and then letting everything else go. Darren Hardy in his success course teaches something very similar. If you want to be really successful, don’t write a list of all the new things that you should add into your daily schedule. Instead, take assessment of all the things that you’re doing in your job, and figure out what you will eliminate and not do any more. You can call that your not-to-do list. In reality, your not-to-do list is so much more powerful than your to-do list!

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Distinctions: More versus Less

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